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Saturday, October 04, 2003
 
TED RALL CERTAINLY HAS A FUNNY KIND OF LOGIC

His comic today is all about how we can't possibly know whether our soldiers are killing the prisoners at our "concentration camp" (aka Gitmo) because the Red Cross, families, and lawyers can't get in. He then follows that up with the statement that "We know they're being abused". That's an odd statement see as we don't even know if they're being killed.

And then there's the pesky fact that the Red Cross actually has visited Gitmo.

Of course I'm putting far too much effort into showing that Rall's an idiot.

 
REUTERS: POLISH TROOPS FIND NEW FRENCH MISSILES IN IRAQ


Polish troops in Iraq have found four French-built advanced anti-aircraft missiles which were built this year, a Polish Defense Ministry spokesman told Reuters Friday.

France strongly denied having sold any such missiles to Iraq for nearly two decades, and said it was impossible that its newest missiles should turn up in Iraq.

"Polish troops discovered an ammunition depot on Sept. 29 near the region of Hilla and there were four French-made Roland-type missiles," Defense Ministry spokesman Eugeniusz Mleczak said.

"It is not the first time Polish troops found ammunition in Iraq but to our surprise these missiles were produced in 2003."

-- Reuters

Again, can't know the full truth, but it's yet another reason why letting France dictate the terms of us attacking Iraq might not be the brightest move.

 
WHY DID WE GO TO WAR WHEN WE DID?

Cincy Blog would like to know.

First off a little backup from Andrew Sullivan.

The administration claimed that Saddam had used WMDs in the past, had hidden materials from the United Nations, was hiding a continued program for weapons of mass destruction, and that we should act before the threat was imminent. The argument was that it was impossible to restrain Saddam Hussein unless he were removed from power and disarmed. The war was legally based on the premise that Saddam had clearly violated U.N. resolutions, was in open breach of such resolutions and was continuing to conceal his programs with the intent of restarting them in earnest once sanctions were lifted. Having read the report carefully, I'd say that the administration is vindicated in every single respect of that argument. This war wasn't just moral; it wasn't just prudent; it was justified on the very terms the administration laid out. And we don't know the half of it yet.

-- Andrew Sullivan


Now I'm not convinced that Saddam didn't have actual, physical, ready to kill millions, WMDs. There are reports everywhere that Saddam was shipping WMDs out all over the place. Kay himself has actually confirmed the dates and routes of some of these shipments, but says he can't confirm it was actually WMDs being shipped. But as I've said the physical WMDs aren't the end-all and be-all of war justification. We went to war because Saddam was blatantly disobeying UN resolutions. This report shows that Saddam was disobeying UN resolutions.

The only way we ever would have had the whole world on our side is if Saddam had actually used his weapons. If France and others had their way inspections would have continued indefinitely. In a world where WMDs are as attainable as they are we can't afford to wait until the threat is "imminent" and Bush laid that out leading up to the war.

From the State of the Union Address:

Our nation and the world must learn the lessons of the Korean Peninsula and not allow an even greater threat to rise up in Iraq.
...
Twelve years ago, Saddam Hussein faced the prospect of being the last casualty in a war he had started and lost. To spare himself, he agreed to disarm of all weapons of mass destruction. For the next 12 years, he systematically violated that agreement. He pursued chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, even while inspectors were in his country. Nothing to date has restrained him from his pursuit of these weapons -- not economic sanctions, not isolation from the civilized world, not even cruise missile strikes on his military facilities.
...
Before September the 11th, many in the world believed that Saddam Hussein could be contained. But chemical agents, lethal viruses and shadowy terrorist networks are not easily contained. Imagine those 19 hijackers with other weapons and other plans -- this time armed by Saddam Hussein. It would take one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known. We will do everything in our power to make sure that that day never comes.
...
Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option.

-- White House


The threat was not imminent, but it was still a threat. France et al were completely unwilling to do anything firmly. There was no "If Saddam doesn't come clean in 3 months then it's ok." There was only "If Saddam doesn't come clean in 3 months then we can get back together and discuss it further." We attacked when we did because it appeared those opposing our timetable weren't opposing when we were doing it, but that we were doing it at all. Might it have been better if we had waited for a better postwar plan? Sure, but that's 20-20 hindsight talking. There was not a single person, either pro or anti, talking before the war about the postwar plan.

And as for this...

Now of course we know there were no weapons, just plans for weapons. There are "plans" for weapons at UC. Why don't we invade Clifton? Those evil Bearcats are a threat to my Redhawks, damn it!

-- Cincy Blog


The reason you don't invade Clifton is because UC didn't invade Oxford 12 years ago, lose, and promise to get rid of those plans in order to get Miami to stop shooting.

Though come to think of it that invading Oxford thing isn't such a bad idea... let me make a few calls. :)

Friday, October 03, 2003
 
EVIDENCE OF IRAQI WEAPONS PROGRAMS FOUND, NO ACTUAL WEAPONS


EVIDENCE DISCLOSED
Some of the evidence of Iraqi weapons programs disclosed by CIA weapons inspector David Kay during congressional committee testimony Thursday:

A clandestine network of laboratories and safe houses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment that was subject to U.N. monitoring and was suitable for continuing chemical and biological weapons research.

A prison laboratory complex that possibly was used to test biological weapons agents on humans. Kay said his investigations have shown that Iraqi officials working to prepare for U.N. inspections were ordered not to declare the facility to the U.N.

Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in the home of an Iraqi scientist. One of the strains can be used to produce biological weapons.

New research on biological weapons-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin -- none of which were declared to the U.N.

Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have helped Iraq resume uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation.

-- CNN


I would point out that these programs alone constituted a breach of UN resolutions.

1441:

3. Decides that, in order to begin to comply with its disarmament obligations, in addition to submitting the required biannual declarations, the Government of Iraq shall provide to UNMOVIC, the IAEA, and the Council, not later than 30 days from the date of this resolution, a currently accurate, full, and complete declaration of all aspects of its programmes to develop chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and other delivery systems such as unmanned aerial vehicles and dispersal systems designed for use on aircraft, including any holdings and precise locations of such weapons, components, sub-components, stocks of agents, and related material and equipment, the locations and work of its research, development and production facilities, as well as all other chemical, biological, and nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to weapon production or material;

-- U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441(via State Department)(emphasis added)


We invaded Iraq because they we thought they weren't living up to their end of the UN resolutions. These finds, without a single WMD find, prove that they weren't.

Thursday, October 02, 2003
 
AP: KUWAIT FOILS SMUGGLING OF CHEMICALS, BIO WARHEADS FROM IRAQ


Kuwaiti security authorities have foiled an attempt to smuggle $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country, a Kuwaiti newspaper said on Wednesday.
The pro-Government Al-Siyassah, quoting an unnamed security source, said the suspects had been watched by security since they arrived in Kuwait and were arrested "in due time." It did not say when or how the smugglers entered Kuwait or when they were arrested.

-- Kuwait foils smuggling of chemicals from Iraq : HindustanTimes.com

Is it true? Only time will tell.

Monday, September 29, 2003
 
NOVAK ON THE CIA HULLABALOO


'Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this. In July I was interviewing a senior administration official on Ambassador Wilson's report when he told me the trip was inspired by his wife, a CIA employee working on weapons of mass destruction. Another senior official told me the same thing. As a professional journalist with 46 years experience in Washington I do not reveal confidential sources. When I called the CIA in July to confirm Mrs. Wilson's involvement in the mission for her husband -- he is a former Clinton administration official -- they asked me not to use her name, but never indicated it would endanger her or anybody else. According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operator, and not in charge of undercover operatives'...

-- DRUDGE REPORT


And if you read the first Novak column it doesn't actually say that the two "senior administration officials" told him Plame was with the CIA, only that they told him it was her idea to send Wilson.


Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. "I will not answer any question about my wife," Wilson told me.


Of course this says nothing about the claims that 2 admin officials called up 6 different reporters and leaked her name.

Sunday, September 28, 2003
 
THE REDS PR COULD BE RUN BY A MENTALLY DEFICIENT MONKEY AND IT WOULD BE IN IMPROVEMENT.

That being said I'm glad Larkin's coming back.






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